Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Merfish
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy deleted as blatant vandalism, blatant hoax and for sockpuppetry
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tag added to article nearly a week ago with no attempt made to delete article or refute hoax claim. Quick search only turns up hits related to "Merfish" as a surname. Two of the three sources given do not directly mention the topic. —KuyaBriBriTalk 05:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The concept is real, but not the name. No article is possible until a name is given, in a WP:Reliable source of course.Northwestgnome (talk) 05:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteRedirect to Mermaid I was the editor who tagged the article last week. Agree with all the comments above. It just didn't feel right, but I thought I'd give the originator a chance to prove that it was called a Merfish. The Harold Holt link rang the most alarm bells for me, hence I removed that section a couple of days ago. The-Pope (talk) 07:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]- Comment: if the concept is real and notable, then it presumably has a conventional name. If not "merfish", what is it? The most pressing question here is: is this is a notable concept? The name isn't so important, because we can simply rename the page. Everyking (talk) 05:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- We think the concept is real, but we don't know if it is notable. Searching for a name we don't know is difficult. There probably should be a mention of it at Mermaid, so unless someone can provide evidence of independent notabilty, I've changed my opinion to redirect to there.The-Pope (talk) 05:54, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- Definitely. The three sources are: 1.a surrealist painting which takes advantage of the absurdity and non-existence of not only the creature, but the concept itself. 2. An album cover that faintly resembles a "merfish", and 3. a book that never even uses the phrase. Clearly, this is a hoax. Hello, My Name Is SithMAN8 (talk) 01:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do NOT Delete-This page should not be deleted. The concept is not under question and clearly supported as it is the subject of various pieces of artwork. It is clearly a defined mythological creature. The entry clearly requires additional support for the verification of the name and claims made. In support of the author’s classification of the creature as a merfish, we can reference “Standard Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology & Legend” by Funk & Wagnall. It is also reference on a Wellesley College page on Mythology: http://www.wellesley.edu/Psychology/Cheek/Narrative/myth.html. --Gregory83267 (talk) 03:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Out of curiosity, where did the painting of the "howling merfish" come from? Everyking (talk) 07:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to mermaid. The page referenced above mentions the word "merfish" as another word for "mermaid", not the supposed mythological creature this article describes.Hello, My Name Is SithMAN8 (talk) 19:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 18:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Mermaid as a new section, perhaps between History & Claimed sightings. If there is an issue with the title "The Merfish" for the new section how about "Inverse Mermaid" or another suitable title. --blue520 13:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to mermaid. -- Alexf(talk) 15:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy deleting as blatant hoax, vandalism, WP:BOLD and WP:SNOW. Blocking both users as well. The links only point to a couple of general pages on surrealist art. "Merfish" by itself might be a plausible redirect; "The Merfish" is not. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.